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Millennial Investing - The Investor’s Podcast Network - TIVP049: DoorDash (DASH): Can It Keep Delivering Returns? w/ Shawn O’Malley & Daniel Mahncke

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《估值播客》(The Intrinsic Value Podcast)探讨了美国餐饮外卖市场的领导者 DoorDash 及其雄心勃勃的扩张计划——旨在成为一家涵盖所有本地商业的物流公司,被誉为“本地零售业的联邦快递”。主播 Sean O'Malley 和 Daniel Munker 深入分析了 DoorDash 的发展历程,重点介绍了它如何从一家烧钱的初创公司转型为最近实现盈利的企业。 DoorDash 的起源可以追溯到斯坦福大学的一个名为“Palo Alto Delivery”的课堂项目。当时,创始人们亲自为那些无法负担自有司机的本地商家配送订单。早期的这种“摸爬滚打”精神以及对智能手机技术(例如利用“查找我的朋友”进行调度)的创造性应用,为公司奠定了基础。他们独特的策略是瞄准郊区市场,而 Grubhub 和 Uber Eats 等竞争对手则更偏爱城市中心。郊区市场竞争较少,订单量更大(服务家庭而非个人),物流也更便捷,这使得 DoorDash 在 2020 年疫情期间实现了爆炸式增长。 然而,该公司的历史并非没有争议。2019 年《纽约时报》的一篇报道披露,DoorDash 将顾客的小费计入司机的最低收入,有效地压低了快递员(Dasher)的收入,并误导了顾客。尽管这项政策后来被改变,但它引发了对该公司“不惜一切代价取胜”心态的道德担忧。尽管如此,首席执行官 Tony Xu 因其亲力亲为的方式而受到赞扬,他经常与客户支持部门沟通,以了解运营挑战。 DoorDash 已经实现了收入来源的多元化,不再仅仅依赖餐厅佣金和顾客配送费。“DoorDash Drive”提供白标服务,允许餐厅使用 DoorDash 的物流网络处理自己的在线订单,从而维护了商家关系。广告已成为一个重要的、高利润的收入来源,促使“抽成率”(净收入率)从 2018 年的 10% 上升到今天的 13.4%。“DashPass”等订阅服务提升了客户忠诚度和订单频率,通过优化订单批处理提高了单位经济效益。 将司机归类为独立承包商的零工经济模式对 DoorDash 的盈利能力至关重要。尽管在某些城市面临监管压力(例如纽约的最低收入规定),但与雇佣带有福利的司机相比,这种模式节省了成本。主播们认为,社会对便利性的接受度超过了重新分类的呼声,特别是考虑到这会带来价格上涨。 DoorDash 还在涉足“自营”零售业务,推出了“Dash Marts”——用于快速配送各种商品的仓库,类似于亚马逊的物流模式。他们也一直在进行收购,包括收购 Caviar 以进军高端配送市场,以 81 亿美元收购 Wolt 以拓展欧洲市场,以及以 39 亿美元收购 Deliveroo 以获取英国/欧洲市场份额。最近对酒店技术公司 SevenRooms 的收购,旨在通过提供客户关系管理(CRM)和数据分析来加深与餐厅的关系,实现超越单一配送业务的多元化。尽管并购存在风险,但这些交易扩大了 DoorDash 的地理覆盖范围和战略产品。 从估值角度来看,播客指出 DoorDash 拥有巨大的潜在市场(全球餐厅和杂货市场各 3 万亿美元)。目前总订单量(GOV)为 800 亿美元,预计成熟期的总订单量将达到 3000 亿美元(占总市场的 5%),届时 13% 的抽成率将带来 390 亿美元的收入。假设营业利润率为 15%,这可能带来 60 亿美元的营业利润。应用典型的市场市盈率(营业利润的 25-35 倍),预示着未来估值可能达到 1500 亿至 2100 亿美元。 然而,主播们总结道,尽管 DoorDash 增长显著且战略举措得当,但目前市值约 1000 亿美元的股票,已经“完美定价”。高额的股权激励(占收入的 9-10%)以及由此导致的股东稀释(五年内股本增加三分之一)是主要担忧。即使有乐观的增长预测,其隐含的年回报率(8-12%)未能达到他们 12% 的门槛回报率,特别是考虑到疫情期间的快速增长率可能不可持续。因此,他们目前选择不投资 DoorDash,认为以当前价格来看,风险回报比并不利于他们。

The Intrinsic Value Podcast discusses DoorDash, a US market leader in meal delivery, and its ambitious expansion to become a logistics company for all local commerce – dubbed the "FedEx of local retail." Hosts Sean O'Malley and Daniel Munker explore DoorDash's journey, highlighting its transition from a cash-burning startup to a recently profitable enterprise. DoorDash's origin traces back to a Stanford class project, Palo Alto Delivery, where founders personally delivered orders for local businesses that couldn't afford their own drivers. This early "hustle" and creative use of smartphone tech (like "Find My Friends" for dispatch) laid the groundwork. Their unique strategy involved targeting suburban markets, which competitors like Grubhub and Uber Eats overlooked in favor of city centers. Suburbs offered less competition, larger order sizes (families vs. individuals), and easier logistics, positioning DoorDash for massive growth during the 2020 pandemic. However, the company's history isn't without controversy. A 2019 New York Times report revealed that DoorDash was factoring customer tips into driver minimum earnings, effectively suppressing Dasher pay and misleading customers. While this policy was later changed, it raised ethical concerns about the company's "win at all costs" mentality. Despite this, CEO Tony Xu is praised for his hands-on approach, regularly engaging with customer support to understand operational challenges. DoorDash has diversified its revenue streams beyond just commissions from restaurants and delivery fees from customers. "DoorDash Drive" offers a white-label service, allowing restaurants to use DoorDash's logistics network for their own online orders, preserving merchant relationships. Advertising has become a significant, high-margin revenue source, contributing to a rising "take rate" (net revenue margin) from 10% in 2018 to 13.4% today. Subscriptions like "DashPass" drive customer loyalty and order frequency, improving unit economics through better order batching. The gig economy model, classifying drivers as independent contractors, is crucial to DoorDash's profitability. This model, despite regulatory pressures in some cities (e.g., New York's minimum earnings), saves costs compared to employing drivers with benefits. The hosts suggest that societal acceptance of convenience outweighs calls for reclassification, especially given the increased prices it would entail. DoorDash is also venturing into "first-party" retail with "Dash Marts" – warehouses stocking inventory for rapid delivery of various goods, akin to Amazon's logistics. They've also been acquisitive, buying Caviar for high-end delivery, Wolt for European expansion ($8.1B), and Deliveroo for UK/European market share ($3.9B). A recent acquisition of SevenRooms, a hospitality tech company, aims to deepen relationships with restaurants by offering CRM and analytics, diversifying beyond just delivery. While M&A can be risky, these deals expand DoorDash's geographic reach and strategic offerings. From a valuation perspective, the podcast notes DoorDash's large addressable market ($3 trillion each for restaurants and groceries globally). With current gross order volume (GOV) at $80 billion, projecting a mature GOV of $300 billion (5% of the total market), a 13% take rate would yield $39 billion in revenue. Assuming a 15% operating margin, this could result in $6 billion in operating profit. Applying typical market multiples (25-35x operating profit) suggests a future valuation of $150-$210 billion. However, the hosts conclude that despite DoorDash's impressive growth and strategic moves, the stock, currently around a $100 billion valuation, is "priced for perfection." High stock-based compensation (9-10% of revenue) and resulting shareholder dilution (share count up a third in 5 years) are significant concerns. Even with optimistic growth projections, the implied annual return (8-12%) fails to meet their 12% hurdle rate, especially considering the rapid growth rates seen during the pandemic may not be sustainable. Therefore, they pass on investing in DoorDash for now, believing the risk-reward profile is not skewed in their favor at current prices.