In a recent episode of Millennial Investing, host Patrick Donnelly sat down with the anonymous "Value Stock Geek" (VSG), a popular Twitter account holder with over 65,000 followers, known for his deep understanding of Ben Graham and Warren Buffett's investment principles. The conversation delved into VSG's investment journey, the evolution of his strategies, and the philosophy behind his unique "Weird Portfolio."
VSG's investment journey began young, at 18, during the late 1990s dot-com bubble. Initially, like many, he was swept up in the internet craze, investing in companies like Cisco Systems. However, a family friend's recommendation of Ben Graham's "The Intelligent Investor" proved to be a pivotal moment. Reading it in 2000, VSG realized the market's irrationality, leading him to sell his internet stocks and embrace the concepts of margin of safety and viewing stocks as ownership of businesses, not mere price charts. This early experience taught him the valuable lesson that "early losses can be a great lesson to investors."
His post-college years, however, were marked by personal financial struggles, including debt exacerbated by a "toxic relationship with life and money," specifically drinking (he's been sober since 2008). He discovered Dave Ramsey's principles, focusing on the behavioral aspect of personal finance. Through extreme frugality – living in an unfinished basement and spending just $25 a week on food – he paid off his debt within a couple of years, establishing a disciplined saving mentality.
Once debt-free, VSG re-engaged with investing, initially leaning towards a more concentrated, Warren Buffett-like individual stock-picking approach. He soon sought to improve, delving into quantitative value investing through the works of Wes Gray, Toby Carlisle, and Joel Greenblatt. He developed a systematic strategy focused on low P/E and low debt-to-equity ratios, screening for earnings consistency, and adding qualitative checks. While he initially explored Greenblatt's "Magic Formula," he noted its limitations, particularly how a mechanical application of Return on Invested Capital (ROIC) can lead to value traps, as true "quality" for Buffett implies *sustainable* high ROIC, which isn't easily screened for.
A significant turning point came during the COVID-19 pandemic. Owning cyclical value stocks like energy companies and mall retailers proved "terrifying," prompting him to sell and avoid a large drawdown. This experience solidified his belief in the unpredictability of macroeconomic events. He realized he needed a strategy that allowed him to hold businesses for longer periods, through economic cycles, rather than trying to time the market. This led him to the work of Pat Dorsey on economic moats and a deeper dive into Buffett's letters, shifting his focus to qualitative analysis of "wonderful companies" with sustainable competitive advantages.
This desire for macro-agnosticism also led to the creation of his "Weird Portfolio," an adaptation of Harry Browne's Permanent Portfolio. Frustrated by being consistently wrong on macro predictions despite some early successes, VSG sought a systematic approach to insulate a portion of his wealth. His "Weird Portfolio" consists of:
* 20% US Small Cap Value
* 20% International Small Caps
* 20% Real Estate (REITs, for inflation protection and small-cap-like returns)
* 20% Long-Term Treasuries (for recessions/depressions, as interest rate cuts benefit them)
* 20% Gold (for inflation, currency crises, and extreme safe-haven scenarios).
This allocation, he explains, provides built-in protection against various economic environments, allowing him to be more aggressive with his individual stock-picking. For his stock-picking, he follows Buffett's advice to "learn about every business," dedicating a week to researching a company for his Substack. This practice helps him build a watch list of quality businesses, ready to buy when prices become attractive, rather than scrambling during market crashes. His tools include quickfs.net for financial data, SEC filings, and "cloning" ideas from respected investors like Terry Smith via sites like Data Roma, as well as Peter Lynch-style observation.
When asked about overrated investment books, VSG cited "The Intelligent Investor" as dense for beginners (suggesting Joel Greenblatt's "Little Book That Beats the Market" as a better starting point) and Seth Klarman's "Margin of Safety" as good but perhaps overrated due to its scarcity. He also touched on Ray Dalio's "Principles" as interesting but potentially challenging to apply in practice.
For younger listeners, VSG offered crucial advice:
1. **Prioritize your career:** "Your career is your most important source of your wealth," a quote from Harry Browne. Focus on career advancement in early stages to build income.
2. **Master personal finance:** Establish good habits like avoiding bad debt, automating savings, and conscious spending.
3. **Keep an investment journal:** Documenting thoughts and predictions helps in learning from mistakes and combats selective memory.
4. **Embrace early lessons:** Small losses when young are less significant over a long investing horizon.
Value Stock Geek shares his insights and research on his Substack, securityanalysis.org (or valuestockgeek.com), and actively engages on Twitter (@valuestockgeek).